diff --git a/router/java/src/net/i2p/router/transport/ntcp/EventPumper.java b/router/java/src/net/i2p/router/transport/ntcp/EventPumper.java
index fbe8a9763..f1a37a54d 100644
--- a/router/java/src/net/i2p/router/transport/ntcp/EventPumper.java
+++ b/router/java/src/net/i2p/router/transport/ntcp/EventPumper.java
@@ -82,7 +82,7 @@ class EventPumper implements Runnable {
     private static final long BLOCKED_IP_FREQ = 3*60*1000;
 
     /** tunnel test now disabled, but this should be long enough to allow an active tunnel to get started */
-    private static final long MIN_EXPIRE_IDLE_TIME = 135*1000l;
+    private static final long MIN_EXPIRE_IDLE_TIME = 120*1000l;
     private static final long MAX_EXPIRE_IDLE_TIME = 11*60*1000l;
 
     /**
diff --git a/router/java/src/net/i2p/router/transport/udp/UDPTransport.java b/router/java/src/net/i2p/router/transport/udp/UDPTransport.java
index 311fef092..644de36bd 100644
--- a/router/java/src/net/i2p/router/transport/udp/UDPTransport.java
+++ b/router/java/src/net/i2p/router/transport/udp/UDPTransport.java
@@ -1667,7 +1667,7 @@ public class UDPTransport extends TransportImpl implements TimedWeightedPriority
     // in the IntroductionManager a chance to work.
     public static final int EXPIRE_TIMEOUT = 20*60*1000;
     private static final int MAX_IDLE_TIME = EXPIRE_TIMEOUT;
-    public static final int MIN_EXPIRE_TIMEOUT = 270*1000;  // 4 1/2 minutes
+    public static final int MIN_EXPIRE_TIMEOUT = 165*1000;
     
     public String getStyle() { return STYLE; }